There is profit (and I confess to being impressed by your balanced comment) and there is deception. Google claims that it owns all "dead souls" books that it has digitized and for which there is no claimant...that normally goes into public domain. google was kicked out of Boston by the libraries when it tried to assert a claim to ownership of anything it digitized. bottom line is that the google mind-set and culture are not favorable to the public interest, in my estimation. they have programmable search engines that go beyond advertising to now manipulate search results so you only see what someone has paid for you to see. I know you have The Google Trilogy mentioned on P2P, I received courtesy copies since Steve Arnold the author has been my virtual CTO for over a decade, Google is the opposite of the autonomous internet.<br>
<br>As for scalability, energy and third party are the blockages. The data centers are -- I speculate not being a technical person, based on bits here and there -- coming to an end in terms of energy affordability. This is why I am so interested in Chile as a possible first country to actually offer up free unlimited energy as a regional and cloud jump starter.<br>
<br>Google only makes one dollar for every x millions in shareholder fantasy cash they spend--I forget the exact amount, but Google has benefitted enormously from the enthusiasm of the public for its message, no one seems to be troubled as I am that after all these years Google is still not connecting dot to dots, dots to people, and people to people--it is a dumb service, not a smart sense-making environment.<br>
<br>With warm regards,<br>Robert<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Robert, I understand the 'predatory' charge, since Google is a profit maximising company legally obliged to favour its shareholders,<br>
<br>but in what is a global company not scalable to global?? there is hardly any company I know of that is more global than Google?<br>
<br>Google is very present in Asia as well, including physically, through hackaton's etc ..<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Robert Steele <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert.david.steele.vivas@gmail.com" target="_blank">robert.david.steele.vivas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Google is predatory, plain and simple. Eric Schmidt left in place a winner take all model that does probes, and then wipes out opponents. It is not scalable to global, and I believe he left because Google stock should be about ready to crash in a year or two when the fantasy falls apart.<br>
<br>The <a href="http://www.infonortics.com/publications/google/google-trilogy.html" target="_blank">Google Trilogy</a> (latest is <a href="http://www.phibetaiota.net/2009/08/2009-arnold-google-the-digital-gutenberg/" target="_blank">Google: The Digital Gutenberg</a>) by Steve Arnold is a truly illuminating review of patents, precedents, and predatory tendencia of Google. Like the US Government, Google is full of good people trapped in a bad system. <br>
<br>What's important here is that we now are focused on the art of the possible. See also what the <a href="http://www.phibetaiota.net/2011/03/reference-building-national-knowledge-infrastructure-how-dutch-pragmatism-nurtures-a-21st-century-economy-the-cook-report-on-internet-protocol/" target="_blank">Dutch have done</a>, making multi-layer transport a reality, and making the biggest layers public highways, what Roger Karraker called "<a href="http://www.phibetaiota.net/1993/12/1993-karraker-highways-of-the-mind/" target="_blank">highways of the mind</a>" decades ago.<br>
<br>Crowd-sourcing has come of age, I think, with its $60K in six days for Freedom Box. Now what is missing is a coherent road map such as I tried to structure (table of contents only), that needs lots of inputs and lots of editing to get to where it can add confidence to crowd-sourcing of the missing pieces and enhancements of the existing pieces.<br>
<br>In passing, have noticed with great surprise (to me) that Wolfram Alpha is heavily into light speed calculations and serving as some kind of real time router, mentioned in the Dutch publication below. I do not understand the details, but find the connection fascinating.<br>
<br>IMHO.....<br><br>Above links:<br><br><a href="http://www.phibetaiota.net/2009/08/2009-arnold-google-the-digital-gutenberg/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">2009 Arnold Google: The Digital Gutenberg</a><br><br><a href="http://www.infonortics.com/publications/google/google-trilogy.html" target="_blank">Stephen E. Arnold The Google Trilogy</a><br>
<br><a href="http://www.phibetaiota.net/2011/03/reference-building-national-knowledge-infrastructure-how-dutch-pragmatism-nurtures-a-21st-century-economy-the-cook-report-on-internet-protocol/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Reference:
Building National Knowledge Infrastructure–How Dutch Pragmatism
Nurtures a 21st Century Economy (The Cook Report on Internet Protocol</a><br><br><a href="http://www.phibetaiota.net/1993/12/1993-karraker-highways-of-the-mind/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">1993 Karraker (US) Highways of the Mind</a><br>
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