<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div></div><div><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><b>Markus and Phil, many thanks for your feed back.</b></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;">During this week end I'll continue my web research taking into account your suggestions and contributions.</p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;">In the meantime I flag you two old articles in which I tried to outline a possible "social glocal transformation" through a facilitator tool such as could be the renaissance of the
"piazza" in the digital age as an "urban public space" where to share knowledge face to face and at distance and to share at the
same time many other facilities .</p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;">Ref. to the article on wikipedia for the story and recent updatings on this initiative:</p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><span><a target="_blank" href="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_telematica">http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_telematica</a> , <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Telematica">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Telematica</a>.</span></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><b><br></b></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><b>1)</b></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><b>A Village for every era …. From the Global Village to Glocal Villages (December 1999)</b></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><b>The era of generative
tech-nets: bit watt -.- and complexity</b></p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.piazzetelematiche.it/1994-2005/doc_e_genart.html">http://www.piazzetelematiche.it/1994-2005/doc_e_genart.html</a></span></p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;min-height:14.0px;"><b>2)</b></p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><b>A GLOCAL Bridge for Italy made up of 8,100 telematic piazzas, one for each of the 8,100 Italian municipalities (November 2001)</b></p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.piazzetelematiche.it/1994-2005/doc_ponteglo-eng.htm">http://www.piazzetelematiche.it/1994-2005/doc_ponteglo-eng.htm</a></span></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><br></p><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica;"><b><br></b></p>A good week end to everyone.</div><div><br></div><div>Giuseppe</div><div><br></div><div><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/bitwatt">http://www.youtube.com/user/bitwatt</a></span></div><div><span><a target="_blank" href="http://stage.spaziopubblico.it/wiki/GJ/HP/01">http://stage.spaziopubblico.it/wiki/GJ/HP/01</a> (beta version)</span></div><div><br></div><div><div><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000">NOTE</font></b></div><div><span>I met Franz in 1996 for the first time at HABITAT II in Instanbul and I met him again virtually
after almost 10 years thanks to this link <a target="_blank" href="http://www.globalvillages.info/wiki.cgi?FranzNahrada">http://www.globalvillages.info/wiki.cgi?FranzNahrada</a> and you can read about it here : <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?PiazzaTelematica">http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?PiazzaTelematica</a></span></div><div><br></div><div>The leaflet (printed in 10.000 copies) that supported me in entering in contact with Franz at HABITAT II can be seen at this link:</div><div><b>A PROPOSAL FOR THE QUALITY OF LIVING ENVIRONMENTS, NEW JOBS AND TELEMATIC INDUSTRY (HABITAT II, 1996)</b></div><div><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.piazzetelematiche.it/1994-2005/Istanbul.pdf">http://www.piazzetelematiche.it/1994-2005/Istanbul.pdf</a></span></div><div><br></div><div>.... from 1996 (at the dawn of the web 1.0) to 2005 (at the dawn of the web 2.0) to 2010 (at the dawn of <span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: x-large;"><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000">? </font></b></span> )</div><div><br></div><div style="text-align: center;">Franz, many many thanks for the organization of the GRUNDTVIG WORKSHOP !</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Da:</span></b> Phil Turner <p.turner@ruralnet.org..uk><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">A:</span></b> Mark Petz
<ravenwyn@gmail.com>; <giuseppesilvi@yahoo.it><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> videobridgebuilders@globalvillages..org<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Inviato:</span></b> Sab 9 gennaio 2010, 00:01:55<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Oggetto:</span></b> HINTERLAND - Germany and Poland<br></font><br>Mark and Guiseppe,<br><br>HINTERLAND - I agree with Mark that it is important <br><br>See the ECOVAST work on small towns and villages and their surrounding<br>areas:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://ecovastdiscussion.ning.com/forum/topics/small-towns-draft-position">http://ecovastdiscussion.ning.com/forum/topics/small-towns-draft-position</a><br><br>There you will find two downloads - attached here.<br>In drafting these, we were careful not to use the term 'hinterland'<br>because of the different meanings in German and English langauges.<br>Nevertheless, we used the word in preparatory
discussions.<br><br>ECOVAST's project ASSET – Action to Strengthen the Small European Town –<br>is seeing results from research that show good links between towns and<br>hinterland, except where infrastructure is lacking. <br>Small Towns fall into a policy gap between Cities and Rural. They are<br>hubs for economic, social and cultural activity, offering markets and<br>service facilities, and beneficial to all. <br><br>The European Commission (DG REGIO) is considering Territorial Cohesion<br>Policy and at recent seminars the following was recorded:<br>The area around Prague could be characterised as an urban core with<br>suburban places, peripheral settlements and a rural hinterland. There was<br>‘polycentricity’ of peri-urban and rural settlements.<br>Prague (with reference to ESPON work) region has 250 micro-regions based<br>on labour markets. <br>Rural hinterlands have an important role. A tissue of small towns
and<br>surrounding areas – POLYCENTRICITY.<br>This includes places ‘at the edge’ and at the ‘inner periphery’.<br><br>Phil<br>------------------<br><br>Mark Petz <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ravenwyn@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ravenwyn@gmail.com">ravenwyn@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br><br><br>>"Social Cooperation Patterns" that is a great look at what<br>>a village is. I think that you should also look at the Hinterland<br>model:<br>><br>>[ <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterland">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterland</a><br>>]<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterland">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterland</a><br>><br>>there is a lot of esp. German deductions from this. It may not be<br>>accurate, but it informs policy with the idea of a city having to be<br>>responsible for towns that are responsible for
villages. <br>><br>>RATHER than villages interlinking in a
network by themselves without<br>any<br>>cities. <br>><br>>My and I think Franz's proffered solution.<br>><br>>Incidentally the Digger and Levellers had elements of these village<br>based<br>>communities in their philosophies as did Pol Pot in Cambodia, when he<br>>tried to destroy cities and make everyone part of village community<br>life.<br>><br>>so co-operation is different if you have a lead village or town - a<br>>heirachy is created rather than the peer to peer networking possible<br>>between autonomous self-organized local communities - villages.<br>><br>>so can you find some examples of this Guiseppe to illustrate these<br>>differences, heirachy and peer to peer in practice. And how<br>videobriodge<br>>woudl be in co-operation for each of these models repsectively.<br>><br>>Lastly also look at social cooperation in a village, for example does<br>the<br>>women's circle talk to the men's
drinking group in the pub? does the<br>>church talk to the school? Does the garden club interact in some way<br>with<br>>the aerobics group? And how might video-bridge facilitate or be an<br>>element in that?<br>><br>>markus<br>><br>>On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Giuseppe Silvi <[<br>>mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:giuseppesilvi@yahoo.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:giuseppesilvi@yahoo.it">giuseppesilvi@yahoo.it</a> ]<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:giuseppesilvi@yahoo.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:giuseppesilvi@yahoo.it">giuseppesilvi@yahoo.it</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>><br>>Hi Mark, Hi all<br>><br>><br>>I attach here a .pdf with a first attempt to understand how to define<br>the<br>>"Social Cooperation Patterns" ... just a kind of personal<br>>"brain storming" through looking at some websites.<br>><br>><br>>It is just a start ..... and there is a lot of study and
research ahead<br>>to accomplish my assignement /
task.<br>><br>><br>>Cheers,<br>>Giuseppe Silvi<br>><br>><br>>Live world statistics on population, government and economics, society<br>>and media, environoment, energy, food, water, and health (available in<br>32<br>>languages)<br>>[ <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.worldometers.info">http://www.worldometers.info</a> ]<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.worldometers.info">http://www.worldometers.info</a><br>>[ <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.realtimestatistics.org/projects.php">http://www.realtimestatistics.org/projects.php</a><br>>]<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.realtimestatistics.org/projects.php">http://www.realtimestatistics..org/projects.php</a><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>Da: Mark Petz <[ mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ravenwyn@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ravenwyn@gmail.com">ravenwyn@gmail.com</a> ]<a
rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ravenwyn@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ravenwyn@gmail.com">ravenwyn@gmail.com</a>><br>>A: [ mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:videobridgebuilders@globalvillages..org">videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org</a><br>>]<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org">videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org</a><br>>Inviato: Ven 8 gennaio 2010, 14:48:08<br>>Oggetto: [VBbuilders] is any HELP needed. what is your status??? URGENT<br>><br>><br>>Hi All<br>><br>>I have been through all the mails that came re video-bridge and tried<br>to<br>>assist people in developing the patterns. I know we will do more in<br>Vein.<br>>BUT in accordance with my task to support you I want to know:<br>><br>>1. Is there anyone that has
not managed to do any work on their<br>>assigments yet? Do you need help with that? <br>><br>>2. Particularly to to
Franz, but others too, where might most usefully<br>>more work time be applied now by me?<br>><br>>Ciaokka!<br>><br>>Markus<br>>PS there does not seem any movement on the follow-up project so I'd<br>like<br>>some progress on that from others - scope, theme and amount we want to<br>>get are particulalry important for me to do follow-up.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>>Videobridgebuilders mailing list<br>><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org">Videobridgebuilders@globalvillages.org</a><br>><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://globalvillages.org/mailman/listinfo/videobridgebuilders">http://globalvillages.org/mailman/listinfo/videobridgebuilders</a><br>><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></div></div></div><div style=""></div>
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