From S.D.Thompson at tees.ac.uk Sun Dec 4 08:26:12 2011 From: S.D.Thompson at tees.ac.uk (Thompson, Steve) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:26:12 +0000 Subject: [VBbuilders] Occupy Stanhope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello, I have been working with Jack Drum Arts of County Durham on a Community Play based on the subject of the 1818 "Battle of Stanhope". The play will run for 3 days in March 2012 in a barn in Stanhope. Basically the story goes like this: the Napoleonic wars had ended and there was a lesser need for lead (bullets). Starving lead miners in Weardale turned to poaching to supplement their income. The Prince Bishop sent Gamekeepers on a mission and captured the Siddle brothers. Their friends and family took pursuit and caught up with the Prince Bishops men in Stanhope and an almighty battle took place at the Black Bull. This all took place 193 years ago but it is still remembered in songs, stories and of course the play ?The Bonnie Moorhen?. This coming Weds 7th December is the anniversary of the ?Battle of Stanhope? and we plan to re-enact it in the very pub where it happened. We?re planning to stream this and it can be seen here http://dramadale.co.uk from 3pm GMT on December 7th ? just click on ?watch? in the top menu. Steve T -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From f.nahrada at reflex.at Sun Dec 4 09:29:52 2011 From: f.nahrada at reflex.at (Franz Nahrada) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:29:52 +0100 Subject: [VBbuilders] Occupy Stanhope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Steve, still a bit confusing, because the site does not tell about the 7th of december, but interesting. One day there might be videobridgeable history exchange... as I wrote here (http://globalvillages.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2029071%3ABlogPost%3A12903&commentId=2029071%3AComment%3A12704&xg_source=activity) the story sounds familiar to me. We had a similar case as, for the revitalisation of our village spirit, we re-enacted in 2009 the "Battle of Schwarzlackenau", the first battle (or rather skirmish) where Napoleons troups were defeated here in Jedlesee 1809 . We made the story more realistic to show how "little people" were crashed in the feudz of the mighty, sought their own way of escaping and paid a high price. The play was written by Karl Danninger of "Schnittpunkt Jedlesee", the local cultural association I had founded here.... see our village diary http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?Jedlesee/JedleseerDorfTratsch go to entry of 8.5.2009 !! Wow we could do a lot that makes sense, rediscovering European history from a village perspective is a powerful one. I found a nice quotation by Norbert Rost, maybe Markus could translate it to English: " "Wenn Europa weiter gedeihen soll, braucht es einen neuen Weg, auf dem es sich entwickeln kann. Ein solcher Weg w?re, Europa als einen Kontinent der St?dte und Gemeinden weiterzuentwickeln, statt als Kontinent der Nationen. Es sozusagen ?von unten? neu zu begr?nden. Wir alle leben in St?dten und D?rfern, sie sind unsere Nester, in denen wir unsere sozialen Netze kn?pfen. Das Leben von uns Europ?ern findet nicht in Nationen statt, es findet in unseren H?usern statt, in unseren Stra?en, unseren Kommunen. Das nahe-liegende ber?hrt uns tagt?glich mehr, als es die Entscheidungen weit entfernter Regierungen tun." " one should add: and if it touches us, then it inflicts pain! here is the full article where the paragraph is taken from: http://www.regionalentwicklung.de/category/regionalisierung/ Franz Nahrada Hotel Karolinenhof & GIVE Jedleseer Strasse 75 1210 Wien -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From S.D.Thompson at tees.ac.uk Sun Dec 4 10:07:48 2011 From: S.D.Thompson at tees.ac.uk (Thompson, Steve) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 09:07:48 +0000 Subject: [VBbuilders] Occupy Stanhope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Franz, The story from 1818 is here http://bit.ly/v9dksL ? this is a transcription from an old document. There are some other documents from the time here: http://bit.ly/uAXSbO We only recently discovered that the Battle took place on December 7th after a visit to the County Record Office. So the re-enactment is an add on to the project which will culminate in a community play in March 2012. I'll try to stream this but it is in a Barn so we shall see. Another additional feature I have been working on is a soap opera about lead mining with seven Primary schools. This will go live in Jan 2012. The connection we have found between these two communities is fascinating and one I would like to explore since the project is about Family learning and to add a global understanding to the story. The making of the bullets AND the firing of them and the harm caused at both ends of the equation. I looked at that article on DorfWiki and Google translated it ? would you mind my reconstituting the content on the Drama Dale website with credit to the original. To make sense of this exchange for others here are some of the comments from the Ning that sparked our conversation where Franz told me of "Battle of Schwarzlackenau" ===== PASTE==== STEVE How interesting Franz. The scene we were re-enacting on Friday http://bit.ly/tgUD7G featured 10 year olds doing what 10 year olds did in the 1800's which was to mine lead in order to make bullets for the Napoleonic wars. I visited a mine on Friday also (see http://bit.ly/rZ408J ). 10 year olds would wash and crush lead ore in that area on the "washing floor". The conditions there would be bitter and that upright board you see was their only shelter from the wind. How odd to think that lead mined in one of our communities may have made bullets fired in one of yours. FRANZ It takes the electronic media to discover this. A warm thought to Marshall McLuhan up in the Skies, especially for the amazing things he wrote about the extension of our nervous system in "war and peace in the global village". ====END OF COPIED MATERIAL==== From: Franz Nahrada > Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 08:29:52 +0000 To: Steve Thompson > Cc: "videobridgebuilders at globalvillages.org" > Subject: Re: [VBbuilders] Occupy Stanhope Hi Steve, still a bit confusing, because the site does not tell about the 7th of december, but interesting. One day there might be videobridgeable history exchange... as I wrote here (http://globalvillages.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2029071%3ABlogPost%3A12903&commentId=2029071%3AComment%3A12704&xg_source=activity) the story sounds familiar to me. We had a similar case as, for the revitalisation of our village spirit, we re-enacted in 2009 the "Battle of Schwarzlackenau", the first battle (or rather skirmish) where Napoleons troups were defeated here in Jedlesee 1809 . We made the story more realistic to show how "little people" were crashed in the feudz of the mighty, sought their own way of escaping and paid a high price. The play was written by Karl Danninger of "Schnittpunkt Jedlesee", the local cultural association I had founded here.... see our village diary http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?Jedlesee/JedleseerDorfTratsch go to entry of 8.5.2009 !! Wow we could do a lot that makes sense, rediscovering European history from a village perspective is a powerful one. I found a nice quotation by Norbert Rost, maybe Markus could translate it to English: " "Wenn Europa weiter gedeihen soll, braucht es einen neuen Weg, auf dem es sich entwickeln kann. Ein solcher Weg w?re, Europa als einen Kontinent der St?dte und Gemeinden weiterzuentwickeln, statt als Kontinent der Nationen. Es sozusagen ?von unten? neu zu begr?nden. Wir alle leben in St?dten und D?rfern, sie sind unsere Nester, in denen wir unsere sozialen Netze kn?pfen. Das Leben von uns Europ?ern findet nicht in Nationen statt, es findet in unseren H?usern statt, in unseren Stra?en, unseren Kommunen. Das nahe-liegende ber?hrt uns tagt?glich mehr, als es die Entscheidungen weit entfernter Regierungen tun." " one should add: and if it touches us, then it inflicts pain! here is the full article where the paragraph is taken from: http://www.regionalentwicklung.de/category/regionalisierung/ Franz Nahrada Hotel Karolinenhof & GIVE Jedleseer Strasse 75 1210 Wien -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ravenwyn at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 13:05:08 2011 From: ravenwyn at gmail.com (Mark Petz) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:05:08 +0100 Subject: [VBbuilders] Occupy Stanhope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sure feel free to put it there. We can always edit it later. Best is if you share the content you want *first *in a Google doc so we can see it is OK markus On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Thompson, Steve wrote: > Hi Franz, > > The story from 1818 is here http://bit.ly/v9dksL ? this is a > transcription from an old document. There are some other documents from the > time here: http://bit.ly/uAXSbO > > We only recently discovered that the Battle took place on December 7th > after a visit to the County Record Office. So the re-enactment is an add on > to the project which will culminate in a community play in March 2012. I'll > try to stream this but it is in a Barn so we shall see. Another additional > feature I have been working on is a soap opera about lead mining with seven > Primary schools. This will go live in Jan 2012. > > The connection we have found between these two communities is fascinating > and one I would like to explore since the project is about Family learning > and to add a global understanding to the story. The making of the bullets > AND the firing of them and the harm caused at both ends of the equation. I > looked at that article on DorfWiki and Google translated it ? would you > mind my reconstituting the content on the Drama Dale website with credit to > the original. > > To make sense of this exchange for others here are some of the comments > from the Ning that sparked our conversation where Franz told me of "Battle > of Schwarzlackenau" > > ===== PASTE==== > STEVE > > How interesting Franz. The scene we were re-enacting on Friday > http://bit.ly/tgUD7G featured 10 year olds doing what 10 year olds did in > the 1800's which was to mine lead in order to make bullets for the > Napoleonic wars. I visited a mine on Friday also (see http://bit.ly/rZ408J). 10 year olds would wash and crush lead ore in that area on the "washing > floor". The conditions there would be bitter and that upright board you see > was their only shelter from the wind. How odd to think that lead mined in > one of our communities may have made bullets fired in one of yours. > > FRANZ > It takes the electronic media to discover this. A warm thought to Marshall > McLuhan up in the Skies, especially for the amazing things he wrote about > the extension of our nervous system in "war and peace in the global > village". > > ====END OF COPIED MATERIAL==== > > From: Franz Nahrada > Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 08:29:52 +0000 > To: Steve Thompson > Cc: "videobridgebuilders at globalvillages.org" < > videobridgebuilders at globalvillages.org> > Subject: Re: [VBbuilders] Occupy Stanhope > > Hi Steve, > > still a bit confusing, because the site does not tell about the 7th of > december, but interesting. > > One day there might be videobridgeable history exchange... > > as I wrote here ( > http://globalvillages.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2029071%3ABlogPost%3A12903&commentId=2029071%3AComment%3A12704&xg_source=activity > ) > > the story sounds familiar to me. We had a similar case as, for the > revitalisation of our village spirit, we re-enacted in 2009 the "Battle of > Schwarzlackenau", the first battle (or rather skirmish) where Napoleons > troups were defeated here in Jedlesee 1809 . > > We made the story more realistic to show how "little people" were crashed > in the feudz of the mighty, sought their own way of escaping and paid a > high price. > > The play was written by Karl Danninger of "Schnittpunkt Jedlesee", the > local cultural association I had founded here.... > > see our village diary > http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?Jedlesee/JedleseerDorfTratsch > > go to entry of 8.5.2009 !! > > Wow we could do a lot that makes sense, rediscovering European history > from a village perspective is a powerful one. > > I found a nice quotation by Norbert Rost, maybe Markus could translate it > to English: > > " > "Wenn Europa weiter gedeihen soll, braucht es einen neuen Weg, auf dem es > sich entwickeln kann. Ein solcher Weg w?re, Europa als einen Kontinent der > St?dte und Gemeinden weiterzuentwickeln, statt als Kontinent der Nationen. > Es sozusagen ?von unten? neu zu begr?nden. Wir alle leben in St?dten und > D?rfern, sie sind unsere Nester, in denen wir unsere sozialen Netze > kn?pfen. Das Leben von uns Europ?ern findet nicht in Nationen statt, es > findet in unseren H?usern statt, in unseren Stra?en, unseren Kommunen. Das > nahe-liegende ber?hrt uns tagt?glich mehr, als es die Entscheidungen weit > entfernter Regierungen tun." > " > one should add: and if it touches us, then it inflicts pain! > > here is the full article where the paragraph is taken from: > > http://www.regionalentwicklung.de/category/regionalisierung/ > > > > Franz Nahrada > Hotel Karolinenhof & GIVE > Jedleseer Strasse 75 > 1210 Wien > > > _______________________________________________ > Videobridgebuilders mailing list > Videobridgebuilders at globalvillages.org > http://globalvillages.org/mailman/listinfo/videobridgebuilders > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From f.nahrada at reflex.at Tue Dec 6 14:42:36 2011 From: f.nahrada at reflex.at (Franz Nahrada) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:42:36 +0100 Subject: [VBbuilders] just a test In-Reply-To: <20111206132020.M32918@svf.stuba.sk> References: <20111206132020.M32918@svf.stuba.sk> Message-ID: Thank you Jarmila. Thank you for keeping in touch. thanks also for reminding me that I should repeat what the "exciting announcement" is about.... for the whole list .... look at this jingle: http://youtu.be/RdSLfuFA2SY We are getting there .... Someone should organize a second Grundtvig Workshop for follow-up in 2012 / 2013 Deadline is 21.02.2012 Marina? all the best Franz "Jarmila Husenicova" writes: > >Dear Franz >Nice Nicolaus Day to you.Thanks for your mail > > Jarmila Husenicova > >Slovak University of Technology >Faculty of Civil Engineering >Department of Architecture >Radlinskeho 11 >813 68 Bratislava 1 > >On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:05:02 +0100, Franz Nahrada wrote >> please excuse me for just testing the functionality of this list. >> BUT >> there will be an exciting announcement soon! >> >> Franz Nahrada >> Hotel Karolinenhof - GIVE >> Jedleseer Strasse 75 >> 1210 Wien >> Tel 2787801-42 >> mobile 0676 9133961 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you for keeping in touch. > > thanks also for reminding me that I should repeat what the "exciting > announcement" is about.... > > for the whole list .... > > look at this jingle: > > http://youtu.be/RdSLfuFA2SY > > We are getting there .... > > Someone should organize a second Grundtvig Workshop for follow-up in 2012 > / 2013 > Deadline is 21.02.2012 > > Marina? > > all the best > > Franz > > > *"Jarmila Husenicova" writes:* > > Dear Franz > Nice Nicolaus Day to you.Thanks for your mail > > Jarmila Husenicova > > Slovak University of Technology > Faculty of Civil Engineering > Department of Architecture > Radlinskeho 11 > 813 68 Bratislava 1 > > On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:05:02 +0100, Franz Nahrada wrote > > please excuse me for just testing the functionality of this list. > > BUT > > there will be an exciting announcement soon! > > > > Franz Nahrada > > Hotel Karolinenhof - GIVE > > Jedleseer Strasse 75 > > 1210 Wien > > Tel 2787801-42 > > mobile 0676 9133961 > > > _______________________________________________ > Videobridgebuilders mailing list > Videobridgebuilders at globalvillages.org > http://globalvillages.org/mailman/listinfo/videobridgebuilders > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From S.D.Thompson at tees.ac.uk Wed Dec 7 20:14:29 2011 From: S.D.Thompson at tees.ac.uk (Thompson, Steve) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 19:14:29 +0000 Subject: [VBbuilders] Fwd: The Battle of Stanhope (Re-Enactment) Message-ID: <91B61ED273D46E4589DA358ABD11872D010982C981B1@HOLLYCLUSTER.windows.tees.ac.uk> See below ----- Forwarded message ----- From: "Thompson, Steve" Date: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 18:23 Subject: The Battle of Stanhope (Re-Enactment) To: Once again apologies for cross posting. The promised re-enactment was late going live (poor rural connectivity) You can catch a low res flip cam movie here: http://jackdrum.co.uk/4pence/the-battle-of-stanhope/ Steve T On 03/12/2011 15:46, "Thompson, Steve" wrote: >Hello, > >Apologies for cross posting. I have been working with Jack Drum Arts of >County Durham on a Community Play based on the subject of the 1818 ?Battle >of Stanhope?. The play will run for 3 days in March 2012 in a barn in >Stanhope. > >Basically the story goes like this: the Napoleonic wars had ended and >there was a lesser need for lead (bullets). Starving lead miners in >Weardale turned to poaching to supplement their income. The Prince Bishop >sent Gamekeepers on a mission and captured the Siddle brothers. Their >friends and family took pursuit and caught up with the Prince Bishops men >in Stanhope and an almighty battle took place at the Black Bull. > >This all took place 193 years ago but it is still remembered in songs, >stories and of course the play ?The Bonnie Moorhen?. This coming Weds 7th >December is the anniversary of the ?Battle of Stanhope? and we plan to >re-enact it in the very pub where it happened. We?re planning to stream >this and it can be seen here http://dramadale.co.uk from 3pm GMT on >December 7th ? just click on ?watch? in the top menu. > > > >Steve T > >-- >Steve Thompson >Community Engagement Coordinator >DigitalCity Innovation >Teesside University >T- 01642 384567 >M - 07795 826953 >E - s.d.thompson at tees.ac.uk >W - www.steve-thompson.org.uk > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PRADSA" group. To post to this group, send an email to pradsa at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pradsa+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pradsa?hl=en-GB. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From f.nahrada at reflex.at Fri Dec 23 02:17:39 2011 From: f.nahrada at reflex.at (Franz Nahrada) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 02:17:39 +0100 Subject: [VBbuilders] speaker for transcript needed! Message-ID: Dear Marina, all Videobridgebuilders! we have acquired a copy of this TV report of our succesful videobridge demo http://www.yoovis.tv/channeltemplate/v4/index.aspx?video=5883_&menuitem=569_Home&webtv=1779_ in the copy we received, there is no TV narrator and we can and must therefore dub with original english voice See the attached english transcript. Thanks to R?diger for translating. We would need a narrators voice (preferrably female, I would like to get Marinas) to integrate into the TV report which we then would send out worldwide..... see the red marked portions of the transcript. I did this "Teledubbing" of off voice already once with our first Videobridge Video....But not in English, just in Styrian.... http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?VideoBridge/VideoInEnglish all the best Franz Franz Nahrada Hotel Karolinenhof Jedleseer Strasse 75 1210 Wien Tel 2787801-42 mobile 0676 9133961 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We > would need a narrators voice (preferrably female, I would like to get > Marinas) to integrate into the TV report which we then would send out > worldwide..... see the red marked portions of the transcript. > > I did this "Teledubbing" of off voice already once with our first > Videobridge Video....But not in English, just in Styrian.... > http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?VideoBridge/VideoInEnglish > > all the best > > Franz > > Franz Nahrada > Hotel Karolinenhof > Jedleseer Strasse 75 > 1210 Wien > Tel 2787801-42 > mobile 0676 9133961 > > > _______________________________________________ > Videobridgebuilders mailing list > Videobridgebuilders at globalvillages.org > http://globalvillages.org/mailman/listinfo/videobridgebuilders > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: